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Post by Kickingbird on Apr 28, 2004 13:33:24 GMT -5
I accidently deleted the post here about crele phoenix, so I wanted to start a new one. I have been reading up and studying the birds I have bred this year and I'm pretty confident in the fact that sex-linked barring inhibits pigment in the shanks and feet of birds. This is why barred marans, barred rocks, and dominiques all have yellow or white leggs.
I have several birds out right now that are blue-crele phoenix as well as barred black and white. I know a few others are working on these also, if you have some out try to post some pics.
My oldest chicks right now are just starting to get their saddle feathers in. After a month or so I'll post some pics of their progress. Right now they are looking quite impressive for chicks.
Mark
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Post by Kickingbird on Jun 6, 2004 22:05:02 GMT -5
Here is a pic of one of my crele stags. They are getting better looking by the day. Can't wait until they are fully feathered! I forgot to mention, this bird is hetrozygous for barring and blue. When I breed him back to a barred hen (non-blue) a portion of the chicks will be pure for barring and the barring will be much, much cleaner. In addition my goal is to remove the blue from future generations so that the black and white will be a better contrast like in any other crele breed.
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Post by Kickingbird on Jul 20, 2004 5:24:01 GMT -5
My project is just now getting exciting! My oldest roo that is crele colored has great color in his neck hackle, his saddles are a little light but they are still very much in the growning stages. His body conformation is great for phoenix, and his earlobes are white. His tail is not great but that will come with time considering he is only 1/2 phoenix. I like these so much I'm considering selling my other colors of phoenix and concentrating on the creles. Anyone else having any luck making them? Mark
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Post by phnxfan on Sept 22, 2004 1:45:01 GMT -5
What did you begin with to start this line? Lee
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Post by Kickingbird on Sept 23, 2004 21:13:59 GMT -5
Lee,
This line of birds is bred out of some nice BBred phoenix and a mystery chicken I bought at a swap-meet. It is a splash blue but has barring and red in it also. I have a good handle on my genetics but this is realy a run of good luck that has brought me this far this fast.
Mark
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Post by phnxfan on Oct 5, 2004 0:54:36 GMT -5
Your working with standards right ? I'm thinking about creole on the bantam end. The Hyde birds I have a bluish tint earlobe, do you know where this comes from? Someone has mentioned crossing phnx & seramas. I might try that out of couriosity .
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Post by Kickingbird on Oct 5, 2004 15:50:21 GMT -5
My birds are standards, there are a couple ppl working on breeding bantam creles but I don't know how they are comming at this point.
I'm not sure about the blue tint in the earlobe, I have had it in birds with very white earlobes but that is it. Kinda like the blue you can see in a turkeys head.
Mark
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Post by Kickingbird on Jan 3, 2005 9:10:44 GMT -5
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Post by Michael on Jan 3, 2005 13:50:25 GMT -5
WOW!
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Post by drewsroo on Jan 3, 2005 21:47:37 GMT -5
I read the first post in this thread about the sex-linked barring inhibiting shank and leg coloring. Just an interesting aside- the polish breeders tried for 20 years to put slate legs on the bantam white crested cuckoo polish and it just isn't going to happen... so they were standardized with pale legs. I've heard slate legs can pop up once in a great while but they never breed true. I just thought I'd throw that out, sorry kind of off topic-I'm fascinated with these wierd genetic interactions By the way that is a gorgeous bird! Andrew
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Post by Kickingbird on Jan 4, 2005 22:22:44 GMT -5
Thanks for the compiments guys!
That is funny that it took 20 years to realize they couldn't get slate legs consistantly!
The picture above was taken about two weeks ago. Today I put this roo in a breeding pen and his saddles are still in full blood feather. One feather I checked looked to be about 12 inches long and was still growing the thin part of the feather. I want to keep him going but I'll probably have to trim him for breeding season.
Mark
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