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Post by PoultryGuy on Jan 17, 2004 1:07:45 GMT -5
Before I head over to the pit forums myself I thought I'd ask here.
I'm looking for some 'toppie' games, in self blue (lavender) largefowl and/or bantam. Anyone know of any breeders? I've got a friend that needs a lavender fowl that's predisposed to putting on a tassel but doesn't have feathered feet.
Thanks in advance. Dan
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Post by bantieman on Jan 18, 2004 17:09:22 GMT -5
I have some silver toppies in the "bantam" size...can't help you with the self blues though.
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Post by Kickingbird on Jan 18, 2004 22:52:16 GMT -5
you have toppie bantams? That is AWSOME! Do you have any pics of them?
Thanks KB
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Post by SlipSpur on Jan 19, 2004 7:13:43 GMT -5
Sure he does, show'em some picks ;D
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Post by PoultryGuy on Jan 19, 2004 11:48:42 GMT -5
Lol, I checked out Luke's site but couldn't see any Toppies on there. Never seen one myself, just heard the descriptions from a few old timers. One of which has mentioned that the good lines of Black LaFleche will throw a Toppie from tme to time.
The guy who's looking for the lavender toppie games needs them for a specific breeding project and wanted to stay away from having to use booted D'uccles. There's got to be a source out there somewhere and hopefully networking will flush it out into the open.
I would like to see some of your Silver toppie bantams Luke, they sound like they'd be interesting.
Dan
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Post by bantieman on Jan 19, 2004 20:29:40 GMT -5
I deleted all the pics I had of them they weren't very good. If I have time after school tomorrow I'll try to take some pics.
I haven't had them very long and ain't quite sure about the whole "toppie" thing but the rooster I got doesn't have much of a "top" to him but the hen does. Normal?
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Post by fowlplay on Jan 19, 2004 22:15:32 GMT -5
ok guys.stupid question of the day ........does toppie mean "top-knot"? i.e. polish type breeds? never have i felt so dumb........lol ;D
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Post by Kickingbird on Jan 19, 2004 23:04:44 GMT -5
Bantiman, It is normal to have different degrees of "toppieness" Fowlxplay, A toppie is kinda like a polish fowl but they are game! And they don't show as much of the topnot. Instead of poofing out all over it kinda jets bacward behind the comb. They are rare as most ppl don't care for the topnot I kinda like them and I think any GAME bantams are COOL I think I have a pic of a bbred Toppie, I'll try and find it and post it here. KB
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Post by PoultryGuy on Jan 19, 2004 23:30:18 GMT -5
Yeah, You got the description pretty much on the knot, I mean dot, lol. The "toppie" term itself usually refers to a bird with a "tassle" that looks more like a spitzenhaben type or crest. On my (created) Oregon Cresteds, their crest is mobile. By that I mean they can raise and lower it.
As for how big the crest is, this depends on several things. The type of comb will greatly determine what the crest looks like and where it is "mounted" on the base of the skull. A single combed bird will have a nicer and taller crest, where as a rose combed bird will have a crest that is smushed out to the sides like a reversed mohawk. I've purposely selected for combless hens and smaller sinlge combed males in my line because it shows off their crests better. They look nothing like polish or silkie crests though. I'll see about getting some pics of my cresteds up tomorrow.
Of all the crested breeds out there, I actually kind of like the spitzenhaben type crested ones, so "Toppie Games" would be right up my alley.
BTW, please don't ever feel dumb for asking "any" sort of question. That's the whole point of having forums and message boards! I certainly don't know everything, how boring would that be? Lol.
Dan
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Post by SlipSpur on Jan 19, 2004 23:42:53 GMT -5
You may want to look for some Blue Burg Muffs, they were blue ( not self ) and some had top knots. I had some once that had huge crests ( when pure ), they were game but so ugly that I gave them away
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Post by PoultryGuy on Jan 20, 2004 0:47:25 GMT -5
Hmm, What part of the country do you remember them from Slip? Might help narrow down the search.
Dan
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Post by bantieman on Jan 20, 2004 17:57:54 GMT -5
Went out and took some new pics today
The rooster shows hardly no top/crest although the hen does have a small one. Probably not the best toppies in the world as far as the crest part but I don't think they really worried about that aspect of the bird, instead the gameness
They are golden duckwing, blue legged, and pea combed. I haven't weighed them but I would say 2.5 to 3 lbs just as a guess.
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Post by Kickingbird on Jan 21, 2004 9:51:56 GMT -5
They look great. I would breed a whole bunch of thoes!
KB
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Post by PoultryGuy on Jan 21, 2004 11:13:09 GMT -5
Hey, Those are nice looking birds! The male looks an aweful lot like my Hatch cross males. I appreciate that you took the time to get the photos and post them, thanks Luke.
Dan
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